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niteowl
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I've been to Rose a few times in the past, mostly to buy something unrelated to sex.... I've occasionally seen and interacted with some nice girls there but they've been few and far between.
dropped by a month ago, for a quick purchase, and didn't see any cuties....
I agree SOL is way better, and even Lolitas is better, imo. Rose could be alright, some people like seedy, but the girls and mamasan are so pushy it can get really annoying... unless you're into exploring, hoping to find a rare jewel before she moves on to better gardens, I'd say not worth it.
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 12:22 am on July 3, 2006
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ely1959
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As per Niteowl, I would have to agree that Rose bar is really only worthwhile for the other reason to go there.
If that reason ever disappears--I beleive the bar will too.
Caio
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Bangkok Women : Meet Sensual Bangkok Women
Posted on: 10:03 pm on July 3, 2006
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11bravo
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Return to the Past
Was actually surprised to see that the last post on this thread was 4 years ago - that recent, huh? 
I won't say this was a sentimental journey, but one I had wanted to make for awhile. Must be heat delirium...
Way back when, first time I came to Bangkok, I never knew about this forum. Might have existed, but that was in the early days of the commercial internet. If there were internet cafes around, they were few and far between.
I don't know where I picked up the info, but somehow I knew that Patpong's Rose bar was a legit, "legit" being the Thai "legit", upstairs bar that was "safe" - not a ripoff, and offered bj's. Unfortunately, because my source's knowledge was limited to a grain of sand, the SOL, while only 20 m away, was, in effect, light years away, as I did not know it existed.
So one early evening way back when, set out, made my way up the stairs, and had the "Rose" experience. Back then, it was so LONG ago, they actually had dancers (well, more like shufflers) on the stage. Over the years, I'd occassionaly stumble back, late afternoons even, to have the couple of girls on duty roused by the bell as I climbed the stairs, pick one, get taken care of, and leave. Sleeze it was.
Hadn't been there in a LONG, LONG time, but had passed it several times while visiting Patpong on this trip. Honestly surprised to see it still there; how do they pay the rent? So after a trip to MBK, decided to take the skytrain (what a difference it makes, no planning required) over to Patpong, and see what was up at the Rose. Age having given me a bit of common sense, discretion over valor and all that, decided AGAINST an afternoon visit, would make it early evening...
Walked by, the permanent tout sitting in the chair outside the entrance, opening the door to the BLACKNESS, enticing you with a "Come inside, have girls". Asked how much a Singha was - you never know, maybe some nefarious organization had taken it over, turned it into a ripoff bar. No, same nefarious sleeze org. "Beer 90 baht, go up, see."
The same bell alerted the girls as I walked up the dark stairs, the bell that, if slowed down, would actually be clanging out "Abandon hope all ye who enter here". That long climb where you're thinking, what the f*ck am I doing? And if I stumble, fall, die, do I really want an obituary saying WHERE I met my end? Somehow, that stairway is hexed - it's impossible to turn around until you reach the top. It's like the void beckons you on...
Hadn't changed a bit. Made sure of the Singha price, 90 baht. Instead of taking my beer at the bar, took it over to a table. There is a reason they keep it barely lit. Immediately surrounded by ladies (girl is someone under 25, and these weren't girls in my book). They're advertising the availability of a bj - I say I know, I've been here before, and I point out the rooms... Mamasan, well maybe not THE mamasan, waitress, whatever, she mentions that she remembers me (yea right), no true, she's worked there 20 years (certainly one of the lower levels of Dante's Inferno), must have started in her 30's. The "service" costs 800 baht.
Mamasan gives me the "opportunity" to buy everyone a drink, "Only buy 1 round"... Hmmm, I don't want to engender that much good will at the Rose, given I'm planning on measuring my time here in 1/4 hours...
She then explains there are "only" 6 girls to pick from as it's early... Which is 3 more than I expected... But it then slowly dawns on me, one to my right, one to my left, one squatting underneath the table, 2 more to the left of the lady on my left, and, and, and,... The girl to my left has her hand up my shorts leg, the girl under the table is rubbing my lower crotch, the girl to the right is rubbing my upper crotch, but there's ANOTHER hand up my right shorts leg... WTF? It's the "20 years of service" Mamasan. She's the 6th girl? 
Well, maybe she is clever after 20 years, because this now crystal clear realization focuses my attention on the matter at hand (as in removal) so I immediately make the decision of which one I'll take to the back room (which also hasn't changed; well, at least they're saving money by not renovating; must be going for that nostalgic look). No dilly-dallying around NOW. Average looking, but in the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed woman is queen...
Given that the major leaguers are at the SOL, the minors have to be somewhere. Plus they have the "ambiance" of that back room to encourage you to finish up and get the hell out of there. I'm wondering if bedbugs are an issue...
It's about as good as it gets at the Rose, which is a shadow of the SOL. She's topless; I have no interest in seeing anything else... at least the light is DIM, she's busy... No "think baseball" here to delay departure... My mind's stuck on the bedbug question...
Goal achieved, I return to the bar, finish my beer, get the check: 890. With the change from my 1000, 10 to the bar, 100 to the lady... minor league ball can be so depressing... and out the door. I do get a warm thank you from the tout at the bottom.
And that's actually the worst part - you just don't want to be seen by anyone coming OUT of the Rose, not even COMPLETE STRANGERS... I'm looking around for the villagers with the pitchforks and torches, pointing and shouting "Unclean, Unclean"... I quickly cut in and out of the night market rows, hoping to throw off any trailing ghosts...
Not for the faint of heart.
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Postscript:
Figuring I'd lost any accusing eyes of where I'd just been, thought I'd stop and have a beer, and ponder my decisions of the last 30 minutes... If the Buddhists are right, I'm hoping to come back as high as an ant... The outside King's corners (and there do seem to be 4 of them), look promising, until I stop, put on the reading glasses, and look at the beer prices. 130 baht?
OK, better than the Nana's rip-off of, what is it, 145, 140 inside the bars... But come on, I know I can get a Singha for 100 baht inside a King's Patpong bar. Granted, the outside bar provides a view of the passing masses (not so massive these days), but it's hot outside. Inside, the beer's cheaper, you can watch some dancers (well, shufflers), and at least there is a/c. Not so effective, given the wide open door, but still better than outside. I just don't understand the pricing structure...
Inside I go. Miss Spinner is not there, which is fine, I can't pull (if for no other reason than the Rose's experience has made my "lower" self withdraw into itself, perhaps not physically, but "emotionally?" ), and saves me the cost of a lady drink.
While having my beer, I see another VERY comely lass "suiting" up, the string bikini top being securely tied at her back by the attractive mamasan. I'm impressed, just something erotic about that, even if my lower self isn't, still cowering in lingering fear. And secure it must be, for this girl is "built".
Up on the stage she goes, not by the rear stairs, but by a leggy (and she does have a PAIR of those) bar stool climb, to the pride of position, right in front, a true enticement to anyone passing. And she does know how to move... OK, not the acrobatics of last decade's Miss Dancer at the G-Spot (one of my major regrets in life, never pulling her, but I'd always buy her a drink just because she was so enjoyable to watch). Still, orders of magnitude above the mere shufflers accompanying her on stage. She even knew how to use a pole.
She gets a phone call, and the dismount gets an 8.0 from this judge. Brief conversation, the remount, and she continues some very NICE moves - she's got the pelvic thrusts, the rotating rear down pat. She catches me watching her - hell, for me, the only show on stage, and I get a nice smile, some pelvic thrusts in my direction, a few squats...
I'm impressed. Check my watch; damn, have to move, obligations to meet. OK, beer almost finished, and I'm enjoying the (her) show. When our eyes meet again, I make the universal sign for a drink - I'll buy her a lady drink.
Which has the exact OPPOSITE effect I've intended: she IMMEDIATELY does a pole dismount (another 8.0), and comes over, STOPPING the show. My lapse in years here and I've forgotten - wasn't it a girl still had to do her dance shift if she was with someone? Or was that only if she didn't have a lady drink? OK, no other customers there, so maybe it's a moot point. Get a nice smile, she gets her 2 oz, 100 baht coke. Up close, she looks good; I figure she won't last long, someone will be spiriting her away.
A mamasan brings over a folder card, opens it, and it's a price list for "takeaway". I really can't make out the numbers, given I've got my reading glasses on, she's that close, but the card is too far away. I don't bother putting on my driving glasses as I know, tonight, the prices are moot, and sometime in the future, I won't care what they are - some prices MUST be paid.
Still being crass, inquiring minds want to know, and all that, I ask if "they" are from her mother, or from a hospital. She looks at me with one of those "that's a stupid question" looks you'd get in school. "From mama; real, you want to touch?" which is not really a question as she grabs my hand and places it on one of the "twins". Yep, real, nice and soft. A genuine 36C if I understood her correctly. Like I said, a SECURE tie of the bikini top MANDATORY to keep those from escaping while dancing.
I curse my luck; it's Cinderella time, and I must make my way home. Another time, which is a real drag, as now there are 2 at the King's bar on my to-do list. She shrugs, I head towards the door, she to the back. OK, sure, I'm under NO illusion that it's anything but BUSINESS, but sometimes, she is COMPELLING, you just have to see her at the end of your nard (to quote Sporadic).
Coda here:
http://bkkx.com/cgi-bin/forum/topic.cgi?forum=5&topic=404&start=175
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Thai Girls : Meet Sexy Thai Girls
Posted on: 10:58 pm on Mar. 25, 2010
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Altoid01
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This bar has got to be the sleaziest bar in Bangkok. Made the mistake of walking in there about 6 months ago. There were about 7 ladies in the bar all over 40 years of age and one that was clearly underage. I left the place before I could even finish my beer.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Sexy Bangkok Girls
Posted on: 8:40 pm on Mar. 26, 2010
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haam sup
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Apparently, this bar's raison d'etre is to be fodder for aspiring porn journalists. Therefore, I'll keep it short:
Jan'10: I went up in the AM, say 11:00. There was a fairly cute girl. She munched my bits in the bar, because the back room was being used as a ganja parlor by a few of the girls and their customer, and the front room was impossibly hot.. I came. I paid. I left.
No bedbugs, no warts, just clean pipes.
The end.
(next time i'll write it in all lower case, in case e.e. cummings has been forgotten.)
hs
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Thai Women : Meet Matured Thai Women
Posted on: 11:13 pm on Mar. 26, 2010
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Kaymanx
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Funny how a universally condemned experience produces some of the best prose from the victims Enjoyable thread.
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Bangkok Women : Meet Beautiful Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:27 am on Mar. 27, 2010
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charmonman
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I actually have a video I took inside the Rose about 14 years ago. Nothing too explicit, but it looks a bit like an outtake from a David Lynch movie.
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Bangkok Girls : Meet Attractive Thai Girls
Posted on: 2:21 am on April 14, 2010
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